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Hi ElijahBosley,

Benjamin Wittes and I are writing an article on lawfare, Wikipedia, and the Lawfare blog- and we would like to ask you a few questions about your elimination of earlier edits on the lawfare page. How would be best to reach you?

Thanks, Stephanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talk • contribs) 19:01, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Stephanie--I make it a policy to discus Wikipedia edits only on Wikipedia. Either on the article talk page, or if you wanted to try revisions in your Sandbox and invite me to comment I would be happy to do so. I am not sure what "elimination of earlier edits" I did on the Lawfare page, though. Sure it was me? I generally tend not to simply delete things. Rather I look for sources, footnotes, and try to add them. Only if I can't find support for something do I consider deleting it, and then--usually I give advance notice on the talk page to invite editor support for the decision. Maybe if you told me what specifically you wanted to add, I could help. Best wishes,ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 20:07, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi ElijahBosley thanks for the quick response. The edits I'm referring to are from June 9, 2012 and had to do with adding content to Lawfare's Wikipage and using the Lawfare blog as a source. You had removed them and written:

-Blogs are not encyclopedic, and articles are not venues to advertise them. At most this blog gets a reference in External links

-Delete advertisement for blog--newspapers or scholarly articles only please. These are respected scholars, so find a respected source for this

I was wondering:

1. Do you ever allow blogs to be used as sources - and if so what is your criteria for using blogs

2. Why doesn't the Lawfare blog fit in this category (since Wiki policy on blogs says allows for blogs to be sources if written by professional researchers writing in their field).

3. Why is a scholar who chooses to write on a blog less reputable than the same scholar writing an oped in a newspaper.

Thanks in advance.

Stephanie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talk • contribs) 20:46, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks Stephanie--yes that was my edit, back in 2012. The distinction is between edited and unedited blogs. A blog on the New York Times website, or Huffington Post for instance, has to pass an outside editor's scrutiny. It is more dependable for being vetted. My own personal blog, or my best friend's blog, or even a professor I deeply respect--does not have outside scrutiny. No matter how expert the blogger, if nobody else has reviewed the work, best not to cite it. In the case of a professional researcher writing in their field, normally that researcher would have a sheaf of articles and bundles of books to cite, and need not resort to citing a blog. That said, we are increasingly seeing "vetted" blogs accepted as reliable. So who knows, under Wikipedia's evolving standards maybe the one to which you refer would now pass muster. To look at the criteria involved, cf. Self-published and questionable sources which--while questionable--may sometimes merit inclusion. ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 21:52, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

PS--here is an example of a blog which--even though not associated with a newspaper, or edited in the conventional sense--nonetheless would be reliable and notable enough to warrant citing on Wikipedia. Dr. Jeff Masters' Weather Underground Blog. It is widely read by fellow expert meteorologists who often contribute comments to it, so it is "vetted" in that sense by expert outsiders and considered reliable.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 13:00, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Got it - thanks so much for the explanation! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talk • contribs) 00:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

FYI - Ben published your response to our piece on the Lawfare blog. You can read it here: http://www.lawfareblog.com/2013/05/wikipedia-volunteer-elijah-bosley-responds/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sleutert21 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 13:50, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Could you please comment on Talk:Thought_identification

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Spirit of faction

America's biggest problem? I agree it is an important issue but my sense is the Constitution needs a revamp. Big problem: people are no longer citizens, preventing an adequate solution to violence and terrorism. My two cents.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your post. So it looks like you too have a book that needs to be written.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 16:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Yes I suppose. How is yours coming along? If you need feedback, let me know. Right now I am writing a sci-fi novel which I hope to finish soon.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:31, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

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The appropriate place to discuss reliable citations is on the article's talk page. There is already some discussion there, so I will leave it at that.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 14:48, 29 October 2013 (UTC)

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		The Civility Barnstar
		for your exceptionally graceful response to my criticism of your Civility proposal. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

In other words, many thanks for your Civility Barnstar to me. Actually given that my suggestion that I deserved a Barnstar was intended as an ironic but illustrative joke, and that I thought about deleting it as possibly being sarcastic to the point of incivility, it was probably one of the most undeserved Civility Barnstars on record, but I ain't complaining :) Incidentally, your new wording represents a huge improvement, though I fear I still have some reservations about it which I expect to post there eventually. Tlhslobus (talk) 12:26, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Ironic? Oh? heh he. Thanks. Ironic or not a barnstar always brightens one's day.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 13:42, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Your thoughts on reliable sources

@ElijahBosley: I read some of your posts in the Identifying Reliable Sources talk page, and do so agree with you in many instances. It appears to me that sourcing is often at the root of many disputes, blocks, and bans. I believe it would serve WP well to update the reliable source criteria, and possibly even include a list of the top 25 unreliable and reliable sources with a neutral balance determined first by general consensus, and maybe followed by a 3/4 majority consensus by admins who are elected to determine the final outcome, or some other process that will assure neutrality. I hope I'm not overstepping my boundaries by posting my thoughts and suggestions here on your Talk page, but if I am, please don't hesitate to delete it. However, I do believe this topic is important enough for editors to seriously consider, and at least try to get some changes made. If you think it's something you'd be interested in discussing, you can post a Talkback on my page. Kind regards... Atsme☯ talk 19:01, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Enhanced interrogation techniques

Hi. Just a friendly suggestion. Please don't revert multiple edits all citing unspecified discussion when it's not immediately obvious where to find that discussion, as it doesn't foster consensus-building. As far as I can tell none of the issues I raised in my edit summaries have been discussed on the article talk page. Thanks. --Dr. Fleischman (talk) 19:45, 7 January 2015 (UTC)

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Hey - there's been a huge outcry by alums about the way Sweet Briar is being depicted as a finishing school on Wikipedia. Are you the person to discuss this with? Who are you? Thanks, [name deleted], Esq. Class of 1984---- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.99.173 (talk) 19:54, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your inquiry. Discussion about article content belongs on its talk page, in this case here. I deleted identifying information from this post, and would suggest signing up for an an account for reasons discussed here. It's quick, free, protects your identity, and useful for the reasons there discussed. As for a direct connection to the subject of the article, a particular Wikipedia policy also is pertinent here. Best wishes, ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 21:47, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

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Abstract expressionism

Take it up on the talk page [1]...Modernist (talk) 19:41, 20 March 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks very much. Off to Rollback school.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 20:10, 22 March 2015 (UTC)

Vandal editing

Only having 21 edits to my name doesn't prevent me from recognizing obvious trolls. Glad to see this user has a history and will continue to be blocked.Ladysif (talk) 23:21, 24 March 2015 (UTC)

Quite true. I agree about the edits in question. Merely the recourse seemed harsh, for a newbie editor. Only later did it come out that this was no newbie.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 13:24, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

SBC

Lol, I was working on an edit in the pending closure section, went to move it up to the main header and saw yours! Thanks!Ladysif (talk) 22:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

"orthographic" ≡ typo?

I too was wondering, but this is from nearly 4 years ago, here! I quoted you on the subject in my edit summary. [2] - 220 of ^Borg 08:54, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

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Euphemism: Affirmative Action

The equal advancement of all people by merit is a subject near & dear to me as my grandmother was the sociologist at Brown vs. Board of Education. I do believe that if discrimination is severe enough, as seems to be the case with the Dalit untouchables in India, that the desperate measure of tokenism is necessary to give some opportunity for equality. Tokenism has also had an extremely constructive result upon the police forces in Canada which it would be good if it could be emulated here in the United States. However, here in the United States, though there may exist isolated pockets of bigotry -& perhaps you even live & suffer in one, we are the land of opportunity. Only in rare & unusual circumstances can someone not either join the military or get on a bus to a place where equality of opportunity is the norm. (I'm also from Canada, I joined the U.S. Navy, and I live in Arizona which is a terrific place to be free of discrimination if you are black as evidenced by Mohammed Ali's residence here.) Tokenism undermines sociological minorities with permanent doubt about their abilities. Therefore, though it may have been a constructive policy once upon a time, it has since become a detriment here in the United States. If you make deletions, I will continue to add facts to support that Affirmative Action is a euphemism for tokenism, and that that tokenism is often to the unqualified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Prickett (talk • contribs) 16:28, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your view. Really such concerns belong on the Affirmative action page, not on the Euphamism page. The latter is only about grammar: whether a word or phrase is a euphamism. The Affirmative action page is the place to discuss the policy itself.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 16:34, 18 September 2015 (UTC)

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It is unacceptable to remove other people's comments in the talk page just because you have no objections yet do not like them, like you did in. Read WP rules. WP rules are best in the World to teach you constructiveness, mr. Dictator. --Javalenok (talk) 23:18, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment. I was not aware I had removed a comment. I looked on the talk page: the comment cited above (here) is still there. Perhaps this refers to an edit I made--and then unmade realizing it was mistaken--in the page history here? In any event, I agree that one should not remove other people's comments. If I did so it was inadvertant.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 15:25, 26 September 2015 (UTC)

Citing sources talk

Thank you for the example you gave at the citing sources talk page. I did not know about the titles for bundled references. Abel (talk) 17:32, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for your kindness. A delightful Christmas surprise.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 15:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the info.ElijahBosley ^{(talk ☞)} 21:30, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

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response of euphemism talkpage

hi, just checking if you've seen my response on the euphemism talk page? thanks best, F 217.151.98.11 (talk) 20:42, 14 December 2016 (UTC)

Noted. I suppose it was discourteous not to respond so I will go say something there.13:37, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

article rename proposial

I've proposed to rename Mind control to Brainwashing. I'm letting you know since you contributed to the article. Redddogg (talk) 23:39, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

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I can cut down on some of the George Carlin stuff in the Euphemism page. But, euphemisms were something very near and dear to his heart in the fact he hated them. I also believe that too many common examples are not bad, but some are satisfactory to give the reader a sense of what they are. Kolby Wilkinson (talk) 03:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC) Kolby Wilkinson

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Please discuss "Origin of SERE techniques" possible incorrectness

Hi ElijahBosley,

I believe the section "Origin of SERE techniques" to needs a rewrite; I suspect it's factually incorrect and misleading as currently written. I placed details and references on the talk page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Survival,_Evasion,_Resistance_and_Escape#%22Origin_of_SERE_techniques%22_appears_to_be_incorrect . Since you are the original author of that section and primary editor, could we discuss the concern?

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